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Posted by Steve at April 26. 2010

So are the ECU now able to read the raw sensor signal?

Or do one still need a 0-5V conversion between the ECU and the sensor?

Im guessing the first but just to be sure...

Re: E85 sensor

Posted by Jurgen Biggelaar at April 26. 2010

Hi Steve.

You are correct, the E85 sensor has now been included.  When you connect the 'Raw' signal to a digital input. The following information can now be used as an axis in a Fuel Adjustment table.

· E85 % Ethanol - this is a measure of the percentage of ethanol within the measured fuel.
· E85 Temperature - this is a measure of the fuel temperature.

Re: E85 sensor

Posted by Brian at April 28. 2010

Has anyone setup a 4D map with it yet?

Re: E85 sensor

Posted by Mike Cullingford at February 21. 2011
Bump of an old thread, the search function worked! I'm looking to do this, run an E85 sensor and do a 4D overlay (fuel and ignition) so i can run anywhere from 0% ethanol to 85% ethanol without any driver input/switching required. I have come across this product: http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/ECA/ECA.shtml Is there any other Ethanol sensors that Link recommends? this is quite expensive at $359USD plus postage (retail). And can we confirm (again) that the raw signal can be used with the required addition box to convert to 0-5v signal. Cheers, Mike

Re: E85 sensor

Posted by Brian at February 22. 2011

You can use the raw signal, it gets connected to a digital input. The 0-5v converter is not needed.

Re: E85 sensor

Posted by Mike Cullingford at February 23. 2011
thanks Brian. Is there NZ availability for these flex fuel sensors? Or will i have to bring them in from the USA? Cheers, Mike

Re: E85 sensor

Posted by Trent Hewitson at May 20. 2011
Does it still require a pull up resistor to 5v? doing one atm.

Re: E85 sensor

Posted by Simon (Link Staff) at May 26. 2011
Will require a 2k2 pullup to 5 volts

Re: E85 sensor

Posted by Daniel Bailey at December 01. 2011

Just to bump this one up again, I've so far seen people only mentioning a single overlay table for ethanol content correction (presumably each for ignition and fuel) - what axis configuration do you guys use, or envisage for a flexifuel tune setup?

Re: E85 sensor

Posted by Simon (Link Staff) at December 02. 2011

The overlay is spanned with Fuel Temp and Ethanol %

And of course a table each for fuel and ignition.

Re: E85 sensor

Posted by Daniel Bailey at December 05. 2011

OK, cheers... thats what I was wondering - so the adjustments are basically just to scale the entire ignition and fuel maps to match the ethanol blend? 

So hypothetically speaking (just plucking numbers off the top of my head) if you tuned the base map on straight 98, then set up an overlay for eth blends you could end up with a +35% fuel trim to the entire fuel table if E85 is in the tank, and the same kind of thing with ignition?   

The reason I ask are for "curly" situations,  such as where the shape of the base ignition tables may be influenced by the knock limitation of petrol, while on E85 the same car may be able to be mapped to MBT under the same conditions.  Makes sense if there are compromises to make one size fit all, but I like to ask just in case this kind of thing has been covered and I've missed it :)

Cheers

Re: E85 sensor

Posted by Simon (Link Staff) at December 05. 2011

If there were big differences then you could go to dual maps with an over lay.

This would allow a manual switch of the main tables and still have a correction for variances in ethanol

Re: E85 sensor

Posted by Daniel Bailey at December 05. 2011

Sweet, sounds like its more or less as I expected - thanks :)

Re: E85 sensor

Posted by Martin Lundkvist at January 05. 2012
Previously Simon (Link Staff) wrote:
Will require a 2k2 pullup to 5 volts
Hello, I have to get some things clear so I have some questions: Do you mean 2200ohm? And what flexifuel sensor is the ecu configured for? GM 12570260? How does the normal 4D axis setup look like? E85% vs Load, or E85% vs E85-temp... Thanks! Martin
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